And You Didn’t Worry

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It’s been a busy Spring, so episodes have been a little infrequent. 🙂 In this episode, I discuss our moral compartmentalisation not only toward nonhuman animals, but also to human animals and that human and nonhuman issues are inextricably entwined.  I give examples.

Apologies for some technical glitches in the audio during this episode.

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That’s Where Our Safety Will Come


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“We’re faced with a very serious situation in this generation. There are insane people who wish to rule the world. They wish to continue to rule the world on violence and repression, and we are all the victims of that violence and repression. We, as the indigenous people of the western hemisphere have been resisting this oppression for 500 years. We know that the Black people have been resisting it for at least that long. And we know that the white people have had to endure it thousands of years. And now it’s come full swing to this generation that we live in: the nuclearization of the world.

You see, this cannot be. We cannot allow this to continue to go on. We cannot do it. We cannot expect that the pro-nuclear oppressor, that other side, we cannot expect that they’re going to change for us. They are going to become more brutal. They are going to become more repressive because it’s a matter of dollars and their illusionary concepts of power.

We have to re-establish our identity. We have to understand who we are and where we fit in the natural order of the world, because our oppressor deals in illusions. They tell us that it is power, but it is not power. They may have all the guns, and they may have all the racist laws and judges, and they may control all the money, but that is not power. These are only imitations of power, and they are only power because in our minds we allow it to be power. But it’s all an imitation. Racism and violence, racism and guns, economics – the brutality of the American Corporate State way of life is nothing more than violence and repression and it doesn’t have anything to do with power. It is brutality. It’s a lack of a sane balance. The people who have created this system, and who perpetuate this system, they are out of balance. They have made us out of balance. They have come into our minds and they have come into our hearts and they’ve programmed us. Because we live in this society, and it has put us out of balance. And because we are out of balance we no longer have the power to deal with them. They have conquered us as a natural power.

See, we are power. They deal in violence and repression, we are power. We are a part of the natural world. All of the things in the natural world are a natural part of the creation and feed off the energy of our sacred mother, Earth. We are power. But they have separated us from our spiritual connection to the Earth, so people feel powerless. We look at the oppressor and we look at the enemy because they have the most guns and the most lies and the most money. People start to feel powerless.

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We are power, we are a natural part of the creation, we were put here on the sacred mother Earth to serve a purpose. And somewhere in the history of people we’re forgetting what the purpose is. The purpose is to honor the Earth, the purpose is to protect the Earth, the purpose is to live in balance with the Earth, the Earth is our mother. And we will never free ourselves as human people, we will never free ourselves as sexual people, we will never free ourselves until we address the issue of how we live in balance with the Earth. Because all our resistance and all of our struggle is hollow, it’s false, it’s another one of the oppressor’s hypocrisies. If we do not look out for the welfare of the Earth first, because I don’t care who it is, any child who turns on their mother is living in a terrible, terrible confusion. The Earth is our mother, we must take care of the Earth.

They pollute – this oppressor, this machine that has gone mad and run amok, it is beserk. They keep telling us, “progress.” They keep telling us “face reality.” Well, let’s deal with reality. Reality is the Earth can no longer take this attack. We can no longer allow this Thing to continue when it’s polluting the air, it’s polluting the water, polluting our food. They pollute the air, they pollute the water, they pollute our food, they pollute our minds. They put us out of balance.

They have made us be insecure with ourselves. They have put us into a situation where we have to play many roles. You know, we gotta be chauvinist, or we’ve got to be on some kind of a class trip, or some kind of illusionary power trip. We’ve gotta play a role, see? We’ve gotta play a role to communicate with other people. We’ve got to go through this charade because they have attacked our self confidence. They have attacked our self confidence and they have made us to listen to *them.* They have made us to believe that they are power. But they are not – they are violent and they are brutal, but they are not power.

We are a natural part of the Earth. As a natural part of the Earth, we have the energy and the power that IS the Earth. The Earth will take care of us if we will remember the Earth- in more than just our words. If we will remember the Earth in our way of life; we are all here to play a role. And all of the animals, and all of the life on the Earth is playing it’s proper role except the human people. Somehow we are betraying, we are betraying our purpose here and that is why we live in the confusion that we live in. They tell us, they want us to believe, that we are powerless.

trudell3We are a natural part of the earth, we are an extension of that natural energy. The natural energy which is Spirit, and which is power.

Power.

A blizzard is power.

An earthquake is power.

A tornado is power.

These are all things of power that no oppressor, no machine age, can put these things of power in a prison. No machine age can make these things of power submit to the machine age. That is natural power. And just as it takes millions and billions of elements to make a blizzard to happen, or to make the earthquake, to make the earth to move, then it’s going to take millions and billions of us.

We are power.
We have that power.
We have the potential for that power.

I remember in the 60s and 70s I heard all these things about “power to the people” and I never really understood because everyone was saying  “power to the people” when they were talking about demonstrating, they were talking about votes, they were talking about dealing on the terms of the oppressor. Our power will come back to us, our sense of balance will come back to us, when we go back to the natural way of protecting and honoring the Earth. If we have forgotten how to do it, or we think that it looks overwhelming, or think that we can never accomplish it, then all we have to do, each one of us, as an individual, we can go and find one spot on the Earth that we can relate to.

Feel that energy, feel that power.
That’s where our safety will come.

The Earth will take care of us. We have to understand that the American Corporate State will not take care of us. They do not care about us. Maximize their profit, that is where their whole life’s value is placed upon- maximizing the profit. They will turn us against each other to maximize the profit, because they have done it in the past.

Nuclear energy. It’s the final assault. Nuclear energy should tell each and every one of us that they have gone beyond the reasons of sanity. That they are no longer sane. That they no longer deal with the real, natural world. Because they want to create a radioactivity that is going to make it impossible for the mother earth to take care of our life. We will not destroy the world. We are arrogant and we are stupid and we are foolish if we believe that we will destroy the world.  Man has the ability to destroy all of the people’s ability to live on the Earth, but we do not have the power to destroy the Earth. The Earth will heal itself.  The Earth will purify itself of us. If it takes a billion years to get rid of the radiation the Earth will do it, because the Earth has that kind of time. We do not.

Our obligations and our loyalty have to be to the earth, and they have to be to our sense of community and to our people and to our relations. Our obligations and loyalty should not be to a government that will not take care of our needs. Our obligations and loyalty should not be to a government that has proven time and time again that it is the enemy of the people unless the people are rich in dollars. That has been the consistent history of Western civilization and the American Corporate State Government – that’s reality. They are not our friends, they do not care about us. We have to face the reality that we have an enemy.

We all want to talk about nuclear war, everyone’s afraid of nuclear war, and it’s going to come between the Americans and the Russians or the Chinese or whoever. But are they not waging nuclear war on us now when the miners die from cancer from mining that Uranium? Are they not waging nuclear war with Three Mile Island? When they release that stuff into the air? Are they not waging nuclear war when they build these nuclear reactors and it’s not safe? Are they not waging nuclear war when they attack the Indian people on their land, militarily attack the Indian people, racistly attack the Indian people, so they can get at the natural resources to feed their radioactive machines? That is war, and they are waging it against us. They bribe congress, they bribe your elected officials, they terrorize and intimidate your elected officials by getting the FBI to blackmail them. Those are acts of war. We have to come to a time in our lifetime, and it will come in our lifetime, where we are going to have to deal with the fact that the enemy has taken over your government. The government is not your ally. The government will use you, chew you up and spit you out.

You think that we are wrong? You think that we are talking unrealistically? Then go look at your elders and see what has happened to your elders in your machine age society. See what kind of respect that they get. See what kind of a voice they are allowed into your society, what kind of input they have. See what their final reward of happiness is after working for this slave state for 30 or 40 years and allowing someone to exploit their labors.

What is racism? Racism is an act of war. What is sexism? Sexism is an act of war. It’s a war against our human dignity and our rights to self respect. This is the war that they wage there. War! They are war-like.  And we have to understand that the American Corporate State got to where it’s at through the act of war. The next war… you wanna worry, you wanna think about a war? The next war that you better be concerned about is the one that they’re gonna fight here. Here in the continental United States. They have fought many wars here. They fought us all along, see, because we said ‘it’s ours and you haven’t got a right to it.’ They fought us. Now you all are claiming that it’s yours under this illusionary concept of private ownership of property and they’re gonna fight you. But they’re going to call it “national security” and “national energy crisis.” They’re going to call it “constitutional rights” and they’re gonna call it “judicial proceedings.” They’re going to nationalize… you know, your military coupe is going to come there. They’re going to nationalize the police departments, there’s your military coupe. In the name of “violence.” “Rising crime.” But all we must do is look in the corporate office and see the rising crime that is taking place there and nobody’s going to jail for it. So we’ve got to understand that they are arming themselves to wage a war against us and it’s going to be called the war of “law and order.” Because they’re twisting it around.

For 500 years my people have resisted. For 500 years we will resist again if it becomes necessary. We want to be able to relate and communicate with all of the people who are living on this land, but we want to be able to relate and communicate from a position of truth. You all gotta face the truth. We have had to face it through 500 years of genocide, we have had to face the truth, we have had to live the truth. We have had to die the truth, before we’re gonna ever see our evolutionary liberation, the people that call themselves Americans are gonna have to face the truth also.

They tell us to “be realistic,” that “progress” means that all these things have to happen. They tell us that we can’t go back to the old way. They tell us “be realistic.” But there is no old way, no new way, there is a way of life. We must live in balance with the earth. We MUST do it. We have no choice. If we allow ourselves to be apathetic, or we allow ourselves to be lied to, or tolerate their lies about what they’re doing to the Earth, then we are betraying our intention. We are betraying our purpose here. We cannot protect that 7th generation if we do not protect the Earth. We cannot protect ourselves if we do not protect the Earth. The Earth gives us life, not the American government. The Earth gives us life, not the multi-national corporate government. The Earth gives us life, we need to have the Earth. We must have it, otherwise our life will be no more. So we must resist what they do.

They want to break our spirit. They will do everything and anything to break our spirit, our will to live. We must learn to resist, we much learn to see, we must learn to look. We must learn to step out of this reactionary-ism. All of our lives they’ve had control of us through their schools, their TV, their electronic media.  They’ve had control of us all of our lives. They have programmed us, they have made us become reactionary. We don’t think, we react to what they do. We don’t think, we react. To everything that they do- we react to it. They’re setting us up in the 80’s because they know consistently throughout the past the people have always reacted to their manipulations of circumstance. They know that the people always react. They’re counting on it in the 80’s.

See, and they outnumber us with guns. They outnumber us with money. They outnumber us with votes. They control all the machines that count the votes. They’ve got it all stacked in their favor. Except there’s a key. The key is we must start thinking, and stop reacting. The oppressor has no thinkers, they have no philosophers, it’s all scientific, it’s all economic, it’s all manipulative. They have no thinkers. You go look and you deal with the enemy and what the enemy does is: the enemy will send somebody out on the street to hit you in the head and the guy says “I’m only taking my orders.” And if you can come from a position of strength to this guy whose hitting you in the head and say “Hey, you’ve got to stop hitting me in the head, we want to talk.” then he says “Well I have to go to my superior to see.” They have no thinkers, either.

If we will start to think we will learn to see, to see what reality really is, and we will outnumber them through the thinking process. We will take our minds away from them. Because through their manipulation of our minds they control our spirit, and they know this is true. They tell us, see, they want us to believe that we are powerless. They want us to believe that we are becoming overwhelmed, that they can overwhelm us. You see, but they are paranoid. They are more paranoid than any of us are, no matter what happens to us. You see, because they have to put people in here to come and listen to what we’re saying, so they can go back and tell.

See, so they’re afraid! They’re afraid because they know we’re talking about reality! Now why are they afraid? They are afraid because they know they are dealing with the illusions of power which are based on the realities of violence and brutality. They’re afraid! See, they don’t want people to think, they don’t want people to be talking, and they don’t want people to think about what they talk about.

Because they know. They’ve known it all along, that they built their whole Thing on illusions. And because they have drawn us in to giving this illusionary world all this power, they have taken our power away from us. Because we believe in the illusions.”

John Trudell,
Thanksgiving address (1980), Activist and author, 1946 – 2015)

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The Elaborate Ruses

 

US Nazi Rally at Madison Square Gardens 1939 with an image of George Washington on the Stage.
US Nazi Rally at Madison Square Gardens 1939 with an image of George Washington on the Stage.

Shared with kind permission of Chris Hedges’ partner Eunice Wong. This essay has two different titles, the one mentioned in the podcast “We Must Understand How the Nazis Succeeded and Corporations Now Operate in Order to Fight Back” and the TruthDig title: “We Must Understand Corporate Power to Fight it” by Pulitzer Prize recipient and (ethical) vegan Chris Hedges.
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August Landmesser refusing to do the Nazi Salute 1936
August Landmesser refusing to do the Nazi Salute 1936

 

The Illusion of Choice ( Photo/Mary Altaffer)
The Illusion of Choice
( Photo/Mary Altaffer)

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“Someone Not Something”: The Titanic Returns to Southampton with the Iceberg in Tow

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In episode 43, I want to share an incident I found quite disturbing a few days ago and expand on it.

A few weeks ago, I did an episode on Gary L. Francione’s attempt to “own” aspects of vegan advocacy. I highlighted his actions in claiming the Be Fair Be Vegan campaign was “ripping him off” and “appropriating” his work. In my podcast episode 41, I pointed out that all the key ideas of veganism existed before Francione, including the term “abolitionist”.  I also noted that when Francione doesn’t find any substantive issues to raise, he will attack any abolitionist vegan as “ripping him off” and being “confused”, unless that person continually not only references Francione’s work, but specifically links to his Facebook page.

This week, an abolitionist advocate who runs the “Queer Vegan” Facebook page and WordPress site, put up a poster showing a non-human animal, with the caption “Someone, Not Something”. (Please note all the unfortunate comments by Francione moderators have been removed possibly by moderators themselves). No apologies or retractions for their false claims have been made. Queer Vegan has been attacked by moderators from Gary Francione’s page, for “failing to attribute it to Gary Francione”.

Here’s a screenshot of their response:

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With kind permission of Queer Vegan, I speak about this attack and their vulnerability at the time of this attack. And I speak about the historical pattern of Francione’s advocates claiming virtually any commonly used meme, phrase or idea as Francione’s personal property.

I go back to similar attacks on Joan Dunayer who too, was accused of stealing the ideas behind “Someone not something”, despite the fact that Dunayer had written about this and had written this phrase in 1990 in an article and Tom Regan had said this phrase in a famous speech in 1989 in the UK.

Although I address the disgraceful attack against Dunayer who is an academic, and an established animal rights theorist, I also would really like to point out that they kind of attack made against “Queer Vegan” is not even a dispute about theoretic property, it’s an attack on an advocate, simply putting up a poster on Facebook that is a three word phrase that is in common use.

Screen shot of my reference on Grumpy Old Vegans Facebook page

gov-attributionThanks to Dede River for her research on the issue of copyright and Dunayer’s response to Perz.

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Jeff Perz’s attack on Dunayer. And note: the Journal of Animal Law included Dunayer’s reply.  pps 49-66

which he reprinted here, without her response. http://www.speciesismreview.info/

Dunayer’s response to Perz

Abolitionist Advocates and Interpersonal Ethics

The Titanic Resurfaces and Collects the Deckchairs (Ep 41 Pt1)

 

An Emotional Response

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What’s Wrong with Riding Horses?

Whats wrong with horseriding

Shared with kind permission of Ren Hurst,  Founder and director at New World Sanctuary Foundation about why horse-riding is not only not vegan, but it causes great harm to horses.

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And Then Sails On To New York (Ep 41 Pt2)

titanic-movie-ship_thumbI discuss where many of the core ideas of veganism and where they originated.

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The Titanic Resurfaces and Collects the Deckchairs (Ep 41 Pt1)

TitanicPlease note the views expressed in this episode 41, Parts 1 and 2 are entirely my own.

Sept 6, 2016 UPDATE: The archived version of Angel Flinn’s interview is now available here.

I don’t know if you had the opportunity to listen to Bob Linden’s Go Vegan Radio segment live on air on August 21, where he interviews Angel Flinn (media coordinator of the BeFairBeVegan campaign. Angel Flinn by the way also happens to do outreach work for Gentle World. If you didn’t catch the interview live, then you’re in luck because although Bob Linden states on his page that it will be not be available in archive form on his Go Vegan Radio page, we managed to record it as it went to air. My last episode contained excerpts from Angel’s interview and I invite you to listen to it.

In this episode I’m going to share the unfortunate and rather seething attack that occurred live on the same Go Vegan Radio program by the guest appearing after Angel Flinn’s interview – Gary L Francione. We thought it might be informative to share the  rather vicious attack on Angel Flinn made by Professor Gary L. Francione and I clear up some misinformation in his live segment (7 minutes or so). Tune into Part 2  “And Then Sailed On To New York” where I discuss where many of the core ideas of veganism really came from.

 

 

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Update on the Historic Be Fair Be Vegan Moving Billboard Campaign in Times Square and Javits Center New York City

Just a little update on the historic #BeFairBeVegan moving billboard campaign in Times Square and Javits Center New York City.
Just a few of the many contributions by the public. See below. For more, visit BeFairBeVegan.com or our Facebook page or Twitter.
Submit videos or photos here

 

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Largest Ever High-Profile Abolitionist Vegan Moving Billboard Campaign, Times Square & Javits, Kicks Off NYC Aug 8, 2016

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Hi Friends,

I wanted to share with you a media advisory about a high-profile moving billboard and poster campaign. It will be the largest abolitionist vegan campaign of its kind in the United States and it starts Monday (tomorrow) August 8th and runs till September 4th and it will be shown in in New York City, NY in Times Square, Javits Center, around the NYC city.

BeFairBeVegan (based in Colorado) is a non-profit organization on the cutting edge of social justice for animals.

So look out for this campaign. I’ve seen previews of the billboard, and I think it’s great, and the website is great as well. It has been created by Joanna Lucas who as some of you may know is an excellent writer and has done many blog posts about residents of Peaceful Prairie Sanctuary. So Joanna has been working very hard on creating the artwork for these excellent moving billboards which will be displayed around NYC and she’s created the website that goes with it. There will be a Facebook page and Twitter account that will accompany this campaign, so feel free to join it when it the campaign goes live at Monday 8th (that’s tomorrow) August at 5am Denver Colorado time, or 7am NYC time or 9pm if you live in Sydney on the east cost of Australia. So if you are in Times Square NYC tomorrow or Javits Centre, look up and see if you can take some photos and if you manage to, please feel free to send them to

info  (at ) VeganTrove (dot) com

and I’ll share them on the social media page (Be Fair Be Vegan on Facebook) associated with the campaign. I’ll post the link to the Facebook page in the information section of this podcast episode. 04-family

Here’s part of the media advisory composed by Angel Flinn from Gentle World. Angel Flinn and myself will be admins on the social media page just in case anyone has any questions about the campaign or questions about veganism.

“Be Fair Be Vegan is a campaign featuring moving billboards as well as static street posters, aimed at introducing viewers to the faces and feelings of the animals we use for food, clothing, research and entertainment.

For four weeks, these provocative slideshows will be displayed in two of the most high profile billboard locations in the country (Times Square and the Javits Center), accompanied by a series of street posters inviting passers-by to consider the circumstances of the victims of the animal industry while seeing them for who they are: sentient beings who value their lives.

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The movement for the emancipation of nonhuman animals is now the biggest social justice movement since the abolition of slavery. Not only is the animal industry holding hostage the natural world and its inhabitants as well as sabotaging the health of our society, its practices are a violation of the most basic rights of the individuals it enslaves.

These billions upon billions of sentient beings are considered, by today’s ‘civilized’ society, to be nothing more than chattel property, and their owners are legally entitled to subject them to many forms of barbaric cruelty in the name of profit, convenience or pleasure.

As consumers, we have the power to take back control, and demand an end to the use of animals as commodities and resources. When we advocate for the widespread adoption of vegan values, we speak for the entire population of humanity’s victims – from wild animals who are hunted and exterminated to make way for the ravages of human excess, to domesticated animals who are bred and confined (whether in crates or pastures), and ultimately killed so that people can make use of the products of their misery.

 

The pandemic of violence in the world calls to us to re-evaluate our relationship with non-human animals – who are victims of the most extreme forms of our collective violence – and to recognize that they are no more meant to be our possessions than are people with different colored skin, women, children, or any other living beings. They too, are individuals, who value their lives, feel pain, fear death, and have a right to live free from oppression.

BeFairBeVegan.com

Angel Flinn, Media Coordinator

outreach (at) BeFairBeVegan (dot) com

So if you know anyone who might like to interview Joanna Lucas or Angel Flinn about this campaign, please get in touch with them at the contact details provided in this media release. I will put it details in the information section of this episode.4656078-new-york-brooklyn-bridge-at-nightLet’s have good thoughts, that anyone who sees any of these prominent moving billboards and associated material with think about what they are participating in and seriously consider going vegan. Every billboard has a strong vegan message, and there is an associated vegan resource website where they can go to find out more about how to be vegan and more about veganism. So let’s support this Be Fair Be Vegan moving billboard campaign as much as possible and try and spread the word to media outlets, to bloggers and so forth, so that they might consider doing a piece on it. That’s how we can help spread the message far and wide. I’m certain there’s going to be some amazed people standing in Times Square and Javits Center tomorrow and for the next few weeks, who have never had the opportunity, which is a really precious opportunity, to think about veganism before and who have never had a clear message about sentient animals and their right not to be used as resources.

01-lifeSo this is a really wonderful opportunity for a lot of people, it’s a wonderful gift for them to have access to this most important message. So let’s do our best to spread this message far and wide about this campaign and this will reach other people who are not lucky enough to live in these particular cities to see these campaigns.

Thanks for listening. Till next time. Bye for now. 🙂

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A Little Abolitionist Vegan Trove Podcast